Nathan R. Jessup

Is Islam Misunderstood?

In freedom, living free, Religion on December 1, 2009 at 4:47 pm

I doubt I need to explain to you how I felt after watching this video. With this post, I am diverging somewhat from my usual discussion of major news events in the hopes of sharing some thoughts which have kicked around my head. Much of what I discuss in this post are questions, a few observations, and a bit of opinion, if permitted. First off, when I see a hatred towards America or the American people, I must admit, I have a strong want to understand why. Perhaps my curiosity stems from my own personal nature, perhaps somewhere else. Either way, it led me to do some serious thinking…

In America, we have our share of murder, rape, and violence, I am not denying that. I understand there is always a minute percentage of any population that will show this type of reckless behavior.  I do not believe the men in the video represent that small percentage of the population however.  Instead, I feel these men are acting out primarily because of their misguided and ritualistic indoctrination. Does Islam support world domination (I feel rather silly even asking-but it’s a legitimate question)? Does Islam teach that every man, woman and child must submit to Islam? And if they don’t, what is the cost?

(4.89) They desire that you should disbelieve as they have disbelieved, so that you might be (all) alike; therefore take not from among them friends until they fly (their homes) in Allah’s way; but if they turn back, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them, and take not from among them a friend or a helper.

As a Christian, I realize there are horrible things through the course of history, carried out in the name of Christianity. However, I very much denounce these actions and realize the offenders are completely wrong in their decisions. With Islam, I have found many of the atrocities (Fort Hood, 9/11 etc.) are praised and not condemned. Are we hearing only the ‘radical’ part of the population? Are the non-radicals afraid to speak out because of fear, or do they rest in silent agreement?

I thank God every day that I even have the right to question and discuss such ideas. America provides a forum in which every citizen and non-citizen for that matter, can openly practice his or her religion in peace. What American law does not give however is shelter from committing acts of violence in the name of religion or otherwise. For example, if I subscribed to a religion that ‘called’ me to kill people with blond hair (completely arbitrary, I promise) then naturally, I would suffer the consequences at the hand of the American Justice system. Our First Amendment explains:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

Clearly, anyone within jurisdiction has the right to practice his or her religion freely. In addition, no religion shall be ‘forced’ upon an unwilling citizen. Our law is clear. Unfortunately, this presents somewhat of a quandary with respect to Islam and freedom of religion in the United States. If (and I am not saying it does) Islam instructs followers to harm or worse, kill ‘non-believers’ for any reason, than Islam is in direct violation of our Constitutional law. Openly admitting that I find the Islamic faith confusing, I find a challenge in getting clear answers to difficult questions. As I comb through an endless collection of writings and videos on the subject of Islam, I find the faith is one of peace and also one of great destruction and brutal punishment. Further, when I see and hear stories of a father murdering both his daughters in Georgia for being ‘too Western’, a little girl having 90 percent of her body burned by her uncle for wearing lipstick or a woman stoned to death in the streets for being seen with a man, I feel sick. If this is life under Sharia Law, it is not only appalling it is illegal.

(14th Amendment) All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

While there is a tremendous amount of Islamic teaching I am unfamiliar with, I cannot help but bear witness to the wake of carnage that remains from punishment carried out in the name of Islam. As uninformed as I am with regards to this multifaceted religion, I do understand Constitutional Law and the ways of the Country I am proud to call my home. In America, we do not rape, kill, or terrorize without suffering repercussions from fair yet firm justice, until recently. Somewhere along the way, the war on terror was perverted, labeling it a ‘war on Islam’ namely by its targets. Only time will tell if American Constitutional Law will ever live in harmony with Sharia law. However, as long as unfathomable murders and abuse continue on as examples of punishment in the name of Islam and under the protections of Sharia Law, neither America nor your humble narrator shall ever show support.

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  1. Well said, well thought out, and, completely correct.

    Sharia law cannot coexist – ever – with the Constitution of the US of A.

    If Islam is followed to the letter, then they must either force the Infidel to believe, or kill the Infidel. To the letter of their faith, those are the ONLY 2 choices.

    So ask yourself…. what percentage of the Muslim population believes in this directive to the letter of the law? Or is the more important question, which leaders – with the capability and desire to wipe out all the Infidels – execute Islam, to the letter of its law?

    When we turn our back on this very real, very grave threat all in the interest of being PC – which is to throw common sense to the wayside – it will be our downfall.

    They are laughing themselves silly – we must look like a bunch of cats chasing our tails! They know we’re stifling ourselves with this PC nonsense, and they use it against us every single opportunity that is given to them.

    Make no mistake, Amendinejad has been quoted as saying that he means to wipe us (The US, and Isreal, we being the Infidels) off the face of the Earth. He believes in the second coming of Mohammed and must bring about this holy jihad to get that ball rolling.

    The clock is ticking….. like a bomb.

  2. Jazz,

    Great points all around. You are correct in saying the clock is ticking; hopefully more will take notice. Thank you for your comment and I look forward to hearing more of your insights in the future.

  3. It may not be Islam, per se, that teaches that its followers should harm or worse, kill ‘non-believers’ (actually it includes believers too even though they read most Moslems out of Islam because no way does a bomb distinguish who it kills) for any reason, but theer *are* preachers who preach that, whether or not we call it Islam, or an Islamic heresy – but it’s there. So even if this is not Islam, per se, we still have this problem of how far does freedom of religion go.

    Perhaps we can say that no person truly believes that people should commit mass murder – and if anybody truly did, God would put a stop to that because it vioplates God’s plan – and anybody preaching that is doing it for money (from Saudi Arabia and other places) so we can get them that way. But we can’t deny taht this stuf is being preached in places and by people who have all the appearances of legitimacy – who at least have not been excommunicated.

  4. It should be noted taht the people who preach this kind of stuff claim taht they are the only ones who truly follow Islam.

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    Thursday December 13 [2001] 4:56 PM ET
    Text of Osama bin Laden Tape

    (OBL quotes several short and incomplete Hadith verses, as follows):

    “I was ordered to fight the people until they say there is no god but Allah, and his prophet Muhammad.”

    “Some people may ask: why do you want to fight us?”

    “There is an association between those who say: I believe in one god and Muhammad is his prophet, and those who don’t (…inaudible…)

    “Those who do not follow the true fiqh (law). The fiqh of Muhammad, the real fiqh. They are just accepting what is being said at face value.”

    “OBL: Those youth who conducted the operations did not accept any fiqh in the popular terms, but they accepted the fiqh that the prophet Muhammad brought….”

  5. Thank you, Nathan, for your honest writing and sincere questions on this urgent topic.

    One comment by Richard Fernandez (aka Wretchard, at The Belmont Club) has helped me clarify my thoughts on Islam: Islam is an ideology posing as a religion (and Anthropogenic Global Warming is a religion posing as an ideology).

    It is a mistake to regard Islam as a religion. It is an expansionist ideology based on oppression of two classes: believers and non-believers. The very word ‘islam’ means ‘submission’ (not ‘peace’).

    Anyone professing faith in Islam must also promote Sharia Law. As has been pointed out, Sharia Law is not compatible with American constitutional law.

    Finally, according to its own spokesmen, Islam cannot be modified or reformed. While there are articulate and courageous ex-Muslims, we are wasting our freedom waiting for a Thomas Jefferson to emerge from the Islamic world.

    Islam should not be protected under the American constitution, or welcomed within American society. I’m honestly sorry to say that.

    Best regards, Peter Warner.

    • Peter,
      Your comments are incredibly insightful. America needs more people like you to stand up and speak truth. I too am sad to say that Sharia Law/Islam and Constitutional Law can never truly coexist. Our Constitution affords many freedoms and promotes the value of the ‘individual’ citizen. Conversely, the same document protects us from anyone/anything that may threaten such freedoms; a problem which I feel most choose to ignore. Again, thank you Peter, your insight is always welcome here.

      Regards

      • Islam is like racism on steroids. And frankly I am sick of it, I am sick and tired of the diseased hearted rambelings of blind sheep for Islam!
        Something about islam, seems to cause such sheer,,denial, they those who support islam don’t even seem capable of dealing with reality.
        And when confronted with it, there own hypocrytical and fierce hatred shows its ugly head.
        Yougottabe Kiddingme! You know what racism is? Its when you post signs above buildings cities which allow one race only,
        well you know like the sign over mecca that says muslims ownly.
        Just because you ,don’t have the courage to stand up for islams millions of victims,. Don’t knock the courage of those who do! Yes the islamic reality is fierce hateful and sadistic. But to face that reality is the only way to care about the victims of islam

  6. great, another lunatic savior of the world…that’s what we need…save us Nathan! the Muslim boggyman is on our doorstep. we dominate the entire American continent, Europe, and Russia, but the evil Muslim is threatening to knock down our gates. grow up! this is racism all right. it’s racism on steroids.

    • Yougotta-

      Clearly, I have failed to understand your point. “Lunatic Savior”? What do you mean by this?

      “We” dominate the entire continent (and I can only assume you mean NORTH American continent)? Well, we do live here…just as others live elsewhere.

      It appears as though you missed the point of my post. “Is Islam misunderstood?” Not only refers to non-muslims, but those who claim to follow the religion. My question was, why do radical Muslims carry out honor killings, beatings, etc. in the name of Islam when so many do not?

      Lastly, you have shown what you do not support; freedom, safety, and liberty. What DO you support? (and this is anything but racism. If I had racist views towards Muslims I would not have Muslim friends).

      • What you need is a sense of realism. You need to feel the dirt beneath your feet. Yes, Muslims are hell bent on world domination. Yes, they are the religion of the sword. Yes, were the world as we know it to continue to exist, their religion ultimately must be outlawed, even here in the U.S.A.

        But you see I read your post on WaPo. I know who you are. I know what you are. In my ignorance, I used to be one of you.

        We had one chance left. His name is President Obama. Given the right support, we might have had a Manhattan Project on alternative energy. That was our last chance. This country is blessed with enough brains to solve the problem of peak oil, but doing so requires a singleness of mind.

        You and your brown shirts, the rank and file of a perverse and ultimately treasonous political party, chose to oppose our president. You killed off the unty that could have saved us. You forced him to expend all of his political capital just trying to get decent health care for a people who of late have suffered more than any other people in the developed world.

        He was never a savior, but if properly supported, if given noting more or less than the respect you afford lunatics like John McCain, he could have put together an energy think tank to address the only problem that really matters in this country.

        But you see it’s too late now. Our fate is sealed thanks to the depraved hypocrisy of the political party that waves our flag day and night. That little window of opportunity we had has passed. The two parties will continue to rip at each other for the next decade. And before you know it, before you can say shazam, everybody will be wondering how this could have happened to the United States of America, why God has forsaken us.

        You need to do your math my little brown shirt friend. You need to put down our flag and pick up a pencil. Hear me on this! If you have one ounce of decency left in you, if you are 1/100 the man you imagine, stop thinking in circles and hear me:

        THERE IS NO REPLACE FOR THE 50 TO 1 RETURN WE GET ON EASY OIL. NONE WHATSOEVER. NOT NUCLEAR. NOT ALTERNATIVE ENERGY. NONE.

        I’m afraid our fate is sealed. I had hope that President Obama would put together the best minds in our country and the rest of the world to address this problem. We have two or three precious decades left before billions start to die.

        BUT THEN YOU BROWN SHIRTS HAPPENED. ALL OF A SUDDEN CONSERVATIVE AMERICA THOUGHT NOTHING OF ATTACKING THE MOST DECENT AND MORAL MAN TO EVER HOLD THE OFFICE OF PRESIDENT IN MY FIFTY YEARS ON THIS PLANET.

        so why don’t you take a few days off your ceaseless warfare against our C-in-C and do a little reading. DO THE MATH. It will start to grow in your mind until finally you grasp the inescapable. We’re already doomed. Our fate is sealed. We had one last chance, and Americas patriots ruined it.

        Without easy oil, at least half the worlds population must of necessity die. That’s the simple truth. That’s what I’m about. Are Muslims a problem? The problem reminds me of a short story in which the main character was complaining about the ills of cigarette smoke while driving his automobile across the entire nation just for fun. That’s your problem, too.

        You brown shirts picked the wrong enemy. There is only one enemy of the United States of America, and its name is “corporate america.” It’s name is capitalism. it’s name is greed. and while you are busy expending all of you life’s energy trying to ruin our C-in-C, the real enemy uses you like a sacrificial pawn.

        Got it? You want that backed up with my blood. come after me.

    • You, sir (sic), are a bonafide idiot. In between your blathering and frothing you forgot to include any substance in your rants above, and below.

      Peak oil? Easy oil? Where do you come up with this stuff? There is enough oil contained within the sovereign territory of the United States and off our shores to last centuries. “People will start dying within decades”? What you lack is faith in the American ingenuity, and misplace your faith in the “Government”. We don’t need your Wonderboy to convene a “think tank” to address this issue! We need to make it economically and politically feasible for the best and brightest in the private sector to do! What has government EVER touched that was left better than they found it? They can’t run the post office, while UPS and FedEx are phenomenally profitable and the public’s first choice for shipping. They bankrupted Amtrak. They couldn’t even run a brothel they seized in Nevada, and had to sell the operation at a loss. You are looking in the wrong places for answers, and you will be profoundly disappointed with what you find. With God as my witness I pray that you don’t open your mouth to espouse your opinions very often, for those around you are dumber for it.

      Talk facts son, not opinion. Argue points with merit, devoid of emotion. The all-caps, extraneous punctuation and run-on drivel are a hallmark of your type, those who seek to agitate and instigate without substance. In my profession we call you “pot-stirrers”. People who just want to get in there and mix it up, but have nothing whatsoever to contribute to either side of the transaction – or discussion.

      Normally this is where I offer to engage in a substantive discussion on the true merits of your comments, but such an exercise would be futile with you, I feel. So, best wishes with your schizophrenic banter across the blogosphere – I’m sure there are many sites where you will find comfort and corroboration for your inane rants. This is not one of them.

  7. Speechless.

    I do however wish to thank you for more quotable insanity in one post than has ever been assembled.

    Keep writing. I’ll keep reading.
    And don’t give up, our fate isn’t sealed. Hang in there big guy…

  8. You actually read all the way through that leftard sh*t, Nathan? I’m going to chalk that up to your dedication to your readers. Fortunately for me, this isn’t my blog site, he’s not my reader, and so I don’t have to look at the libturd droppings he left behind.

    If you need help sweeping the place up later, let me know.

    • AuntieMadder,
      I always enjoy reading your thoughts on Pundit. Thanks for stopping by the Raw Deal. I hope to see more of you…

      I will certainly let you know if I need any help. As it stands, I am pretty good with a broom.

      • Thank you, Nathan, for the compliment and the warm welcome. I’ve bookmarked your place here and will definitely be checking back regularly.

  9. Today a precious child, will be seen as an object to be used as a weapon in war, In fact today many precious
    Children will be seen as objects to be used as weapons of Islams war against the disbelievers in the name of Allah for the cause of islam.
    These precious beautiful children, who are viewed as objects by islamists leaders, will be stripped of all the humanity islam can get out of them, filled with all the Islamic hatred islam can instill in them and brainwashed to so hate there fellow human beings, The they will literally praise death and human bombs.

    They will not give a flip about the earth the environment or human rights for all they will not give a flip about anything really other then the brainwashing islam has and will instill in them, And it will be as though the very souls of these children were brutally raped, because they will be so robbed of there innocence.

    And countless muslims who on one hand claim to be about peace, on the other hand praise death and jihad,
    Will praise Allah that this poor precious children are so corrupted that they don’t know what innocents is
    Anymore. And a bunch of pathetic people who think there doing the world some great favor by defending islam at all costs, Will actually promote or defend deny or cover for this sheer evil and once again as I have
    Always been I will be bashed insulted put down and hated because I care enough about those muslim children, TO STAND UP TO ISLAM ON THERE BEHALF AND SAY HELL NO IT IS NOT OK FOR YOU TO DO THIS TO THE CHILDREN!
    When islam supporters give a damn about islams victims as much as they do islamists, Then maybe I will work on easing my hatred of islam till then I just hate islam for what its done to believers and disbelievers alike!

  10. Ahhhahahahahah…Yougottabe Kiddingme…appropriate name.

    Thanks for the laugh! At first I thought you had to be sarcastic with your talk of Obama being our thwarted savior, but it actually got funnier as I realized you were actually serious.

  11. We need to encourage and see our fellow American Muslims by the score stand up for themselves and against radical variations of Islam, embraced by the likes of CAIR, that are – as described by one American Muslim – “truly a threat” to this country.
    http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/dn/opinion/viewpoints/stories/DN-jasser_15edi.State.Edition1.20ea5de.html

  12. How much aluminum foil you wearing under that turban yougottabe Kiddingme?

    In all seriousness, America it the haven for freedom and sovereignty. Islam domintes elsewhere, and if that’s the kind of life you seek, go seek it there. The US welcomes those who choose to live free, earn wealth, and live prosperously. You can worship Allah here, that doesn’t bother me a bit – but keep the terror, death and Sharia law to those countries who think opression and fear are somehow the way to the divine.

    A side thought – as a woman, I can’t imagine why any woman on the planet would want to be Islamic. It’s opressive and violent toward women. You’d think that radical femenists would be encouraging Muslim women to abandon the Burka….

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